Since 1976

Since 1976, originally uploaded by Keith Yeung.

Keith Yeung is a great artist & member on www.flickr.com

DongShan Island - Soon These Only Found On flickr!!

DongShan Island - Soon These Only Found On flickr!!, originally uploaded by CharlieBrown8989.

For this incident, I am calling our diplomat & EPA activists to serve notice to the President of China, for his attention & resolutions into this case.

I am also calling our President George W. Bush to have a word with President Hu JinDao on this issue immediately!!

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DongShan Island - Soon These Only Found On flickr!!

I am very surprise on the respond on the issue of PX plant in Ku Riu which is 7KM away from DongShan.

Where is the men of Novell prize winners' for EPA??

Having doing lots of foot works & empty my pocket!! I am still a lone ranger in the Global Warming & EPA things.

I can only find a link on Times News. The news posted on the Chinese sites are all taken off!!

DongShan & Ku Riu is about 100km away from Taiwan, I wonder why the Taiwan & international EPA activists have not mounted any moment in supporting the Ku Riu & DongShan people who are suffering the suppression & oppression & those people that are wounded & jail by their government..etc.

As I have to go now.

I would continue the translation tomorrow.

You see even the locals who provide info to me are unable to contact.

I urge all the international EPA activists do something in support to the poor people there!!

The polluted sea & air would hit the whole world soon.

Remember, there is only one world!!

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The Ku Riu island PX project is not a straight & simple after all. If the project is allow to goes on. the after maths effects would be far & deep!!


东山的事情：
古雷半岛漳州各县城距离
云霄 ：31公里，诏安：45公里，东山：23公里，龙海：66公里， 漳州：70公里
平和：65公里 南靖：73公里，华安：119公里 海沧：77公里 厦门：81公里。
我相信FZ希望是社会稳定，但是，为了稳定，现封闭了所有的媒体传播，打记者热线一听是东山的，没有人敢出来采访。群众有人现场用手机，数码相机拍照，被发现后，手机、数码相机当场被没收，求诉无门的东山人民，用报纸抹着眼泪，更有志愿者，纷纷捐款，要将此游行进行到停止PX项目在古雷投建，游行队伍不管走到哪，累了，渴了，居住周围的群众自愿烧锅做饭，慰藉队伍。

队伍中不乏老太婆老大爷，小学生中学生，镜头一：警察上前阻截时，颤巍巍的老阿婆："年轻仔，我这把岁数，再活也活不了几年了，我是为我的子孙后代呀！"镜头二：一只有七八岁的小学生，从地上捡起一张皱巴巴的关于宣传反PX项目的小宣传单，细心抹平，平整地贴在墙上，粘好
善良的东山人确实愤怒了，他们周围四面环海，现大大小小的海产品养殖场近千家，每年占60%的东山人靠渔业而生活着，他们有他们的骄傲：可以与夏威夷媲美的海水，沙滩，千百年来几乎不受污染的空气，绿水，然而，在PX投建生产之后，谁来保证这一切不会受到影响，是政府现在说的一句和"煤气一样好管理"这样的空话吗？？
学生罢课，交通堵塞，商场停止营业，东山从没有这么的乱过，但东山人也从没这么的团结过！！！！

卢展工省委书记对厦门反PX项目游行事件评价说"PX是一个好项目，大项目，但是现在有这么多的厦门人反对，我们尊重民意，关注民生，这一定层次也说明了厦门人民的环境保护意识不断加强，这是一件好事。"那么，东山人的反对呢，须知，PX项目在漳州每个人的心里，都已是草木皆兵了。

事态已非常的恶劣，所发生的一切不是现在每一个东山人愿看到，相信也不是每一个有良心的漳州市民愿意看到，在这里，我一个平凡的东山人只能呼吁：快点站出来，各界的媒体，快点站出来，各级政府领导，要
给子民一个明确的答复。而不是钢盔铁枪的警察，防爆部队，武装警察了，跪求了！！！！

The following is the datas of Dongshan Incidents:

Ku Riu locality ( Distance in KM):

Yen Xiao 云霄 ：31公里，

ChowAun 诏安：45公里，

Dongshan 东山：23公里，

LongHai 龙海：66公里，

ZhangZhou 漳州：70公里

PingHe 平和：65公里

NanChing 南靖：73公里，

HuaAun 华安：119公里

HaiChiang 海沧：77公里

Xiamen 厦门：81公里。

I believed FuZhou (the Provincial Gov) would like to see the stability of the society. However because of stability, now gov have censor all the public medias. If you call up the press, the reporters heard that is DongShan, then no one would stand up to visit & report about the incident!!

There were public using Digital Cameras to snap the scene; once found by the police or the security protocols, it would be confiscated immediately.

It seem that DongShan people have no avenue to bring up their request to. Some Dongshan using the news paper to clean up their tears & some even donate money for the demo convoys.

Wherever they marching to, there are people offering drinks; food to the convoys.

Within the demo convoys, there are all works of life old & young. Primary to High school students. There is a image showing that, one policeman was stopping the demo people, a old lady knee down to beg the police by saying:

Young man ; I am would not be living for long in my old age; what I am doing is for our Dongshan future generations!!

Another image shown that a young student about 7-8 years old pick up a damage PX news poster; patiently pasted on the wall!!

Because the PX project; Now the simple & honors DongShan people angry; upset ; hopeless as their home for over 2K years would be destroy by the PX pollutions. Their lifeline on fisheries; tourism would totally gone!! All the beauties of the Sunshine; Blue sky; Green mountains would be gone forever.

No one can guaranty that PX plant would not polluted the area; but the gov just said, managing PX plant is just like managing LPG tank at home!! Can you believe that??

Students stop going to school; business & commercial people stop operations. DongShan people & DongShan Island have not been so mess up & so united!!

Fujian province committee secretary general Mr Lu Chan Gong said during the Xiamen PX event that:

PX is a gigantic project; good for the Xiamen people , However, now the people against it, we respect peoples' decision therefore GOV would not do it in Xieman.

The above have proved that Xieman people are highly aware the danger of PX plant & the environment issues arises. That is a good thing. Why is that a good project which Xiamen peoples' don't want it & then the GOV is forcing Ku Riu & DongShan people to accept it??

The incidents is very critical conditions; what I am asking or requesting is the various level of GOV officials; medias; Green & Sustainability activists have to come to the front & help the DongShan People.

We don't want the high handed police & reserve units using guns & weapon to point at the DongShan people!!


Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dongshan(东山) From Paradise 2 Hell Via PX Plant in Ku Riu (古雷)

Dongshan(东山) From Paradise 2 Hell Via PX Plant in Ku Riu (古雷), originally uploaded by CharlieBrown8989.

Dongshan(东山) From Paradise 2 Hell Via PX Plant in Ku Riu (古雷)

The following is the translation as promised.

Please Looks into the Dongshan People Interest on The Reason Why Against The Building of PX Plant!!

Please Looks into the Dongshan People Interest on The Reason Why Against The Building of PX Plant!!

On 2008 02 29, the simple & honors Paradise - Dongshan People are angry!!

People are carrying Banners with " Against Building PX Plant @ Ku Riu, Risk of Lives to Dongshan People" ku Riu penisular which is about 22KM off Dongshan Island.

Dongshan is just opposite Taiwan.

The groups of people put up blockages; barricades; block out the major street in their old town "DongLin"; DongLin have been a city center for Dongshan for over 2 thousand years. Which is also the home town of my late dad's.

The people requesting their county government to put off the decision to build PX plant which is 22KM away from their home island. They want their government to request their upper authority to ask Zhang Bu County to put off the decision. Since Ku Riu is under the control of Zhang Bu!!

So that this paradise island could continue their own lives!!

In principle, Dongshan county government have not authority over the Zhang Bu County government decision. However, government are used to use high pressure & high handed ways to suppress the peoples'. Therefore the riots broke out, County deputy mayor is wounded during the riots; police are torturing the people & students.

Thus one of the police petrol car is overturned by the rioters. From Mar 03, 2008 the rioters have increased to over 50 to 60K people. Rioters includes old folks; students, all works of lives. Now the riots have spread to the whole county!! It have been reported that 16 police car have been damaged; also the Government buildings glasses are broken by the rioters.

There are over 17 people wounded & 16 people were taken to county jail.

The words of the Dongshan people is that they want Blue Sky; White Clouds; They don't want PX plant;

They want the original; Beaches; White sands; Non polluted sea & water

Government saying is that only stability would bring prosperity!! If like these, how could government bring prosperity & development to Dongshan?? "PX is great project; it would generate 80Billions GDP to the Nation!! good management & control is just like managing LPG cylinder project, If within control then just like having the LPG in your family!!

Can you see how naive & stupid explanations??

If that is great project for the people & nation, why Xiamen don't want the project?? Why should Dongshan people accept the project??

Dongshan cannot compare with Xiamen in evconomy & culture. What Dongshan people want tis safe guard their life line in fisheries; tourism, clean environments. Dongshan people don't understand what is GDP!!

Ku Riu the nearest part to Dongshan is only 7KM away from Dongshan, what if the PX leakage of pollutants & ... then Dongshan people would be all sending to hell!!

According the the International EPA requirement, such industries must be 100miles away from the populated area. But now such requirement is not observed by authority!!

To be continue......

Uploaded by CharlieBrown8989 on 6 Mar 08, 7.22PM PST.

Dongshan Island - China Riots

The following is what I found on Time Blog

Back in June, the people of the coastal city of Xiamen came out onto the streets for two successive days to protest plans to allow a billion-dollar chemical plant to be built within city limits. It was an unprecedented but entirely peaceful demonstration and, after considerable twists and turns, eventually resulted in the municipal government deciding to relocate the project to an island about 100 kilometers to the south of Xiamen. At the time, we noted that the authorities would have a hard time controlling the impulse to demonstrate in other cities. Sure enough, there were protests in Shanghai (over a planned train project) and elsewhere. They were entirely peaceful and relatively small, involving only a few hundred people. Now however, it looks as though that same chemical plant that caused the trouble in Xiamen is sparking large protest again, this time violent, with one or more protesters possibly dying. Reports remain sketchy—material on the internet in China is rapidly blocked or deleted—but it's now clear that many thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of residents living near the proposed site of the relocated plant have been showing their displeasure at the plan.

One post entitled, "New development on PX Project: Protest at Dongshan Island" on a Sohu.com (a popular portal) bulletin board mysteriously survived three days of censorship. Although the authorities never officially announced the plan to relocate the chemical plant to Gulei Peninsula in Zhangzhou City, the local opposition to the project was very strong. On Dongshan Island, which is next to the proposed project site, that opposition burst into the open on Feb.29.

"On Feb. 29th, the peaceful island witnessed a historic breakout by the residents. Thousands of people blocked the main roads in town and stopped all vehicles leaving for the government district of Dongshan County", the post recounts. And this was only the prelude. On March 1, "thousands of motorcycles, vans, buses, and even more people took to the streets", and an "even bigger demonstration has been planned for the next day". According to the posts, several police cars were destroyed by "furious protestors", and severe injuries occurred on both sides. A death toll of 1 or 3 is cited in the follow-up posts.

With a population of only 220,000, Dongshan Island mostly depends on tourism and the fishing industry for its local GDP. "We are diligent, honest and law abiding people. We put up with constant military exercises, we make a living by hard, honest labor, and what more do we have to give?" says an angry poster, "We can't afford to live in Xiamen with the salary we make, and now we are driven away from Dongshan as well! If we put up with the pollution from PX and endure the consequences, how can we explain to future generations?"

The local Dongshan authorities responded to the protest on the morning of the 2nd with an "Open letter to Dongshan citizens", broadcast only on local TV. Internet posts on the riot are quickly deleted as soon as they appear, but bits and pieces of surviving information indicate that the government's open letter--which warned against further protests--failed to mollify the demonstrators.

I shall give more information tomorrow!!

Reach Out To Burma

Reach Out To Burma, originally uploaded by Expatriate Games.

Reach Out To Burma

Over fifty years of civil war have left Burma one of the poorest countries in the world. The military dictatorship attacks its own people, killing thousands, and leaving millions displaced.

Many in opposition are either imprisoned or killed. In most of the country there is a false peace due to the dictators' ability to control dissent, however in some ethnic areas the Regime’s army is still attacking the people. There are over 1 million internally displaced people, and over 1 million refugees who have fled the country. There is continual environmental destruction, an HIV/AIDS epidemic, the ongoing laying of landmines, human trafficking and religious persecution. www.2.free-burma.org/index.php

Uploaded by Expatriate Games on 19 Nov 07, 8.52AM PST.

Peace and Harmony to Burma & the World!!

peace and harmony to burma, originally uploaded by insashi.

This great shot by Insashi, a great artist & member on www.flickr.com

FREE Burma

FREE Burma, originally uploaded by insashi.

FREE Burma

When you try your best, but you don't succeed
When you get what you want, but not what you need
When you feel so tired, but you can't sleep
Stuck in reverse
When the tears come streaming down your face
When you lose something you can't replace
When you love someone, but it goes to waste
Could it be worse?

Lights will guide you home
And ignite your bones
And I will try to fix you

High up above or down below
When you're too in love to let it go
If you never try you'll never know
Just what you're worth

Lights will guide you home
And ignite your bones
And I will try to fix you

Tears stream down your face
When you lose something you cannot replace
Tears stream down your face
And I...

Tears stream down on your face
I promise you I will learn from the mistakes
Tears stream down your face
And I...

Lights will guide you home
And ignite your bones
And I will try to fix you


www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHqcHFkXArk

Uploaded by insashi on 11 Oct 07, 5.22AM PDT.
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Myanmar protest

Myanmar protest, originally uploaded by Burma Friend.

Myanmar protest

Burma army killed more than 500 staged protestor at midnight and arrested over 5000 including Buddhist monks.
Photo: Secret source for Narinjara News

Uploaded by Burma Friend on 4 Oct 07, 8.14PM PDT.

This great shot by Burma Friend, a rising star & member on www.flickr.com

Myanmar protest

Myanmar protest, originally uploaded by Burma Friend.

Myanmar protest

Burma army killed more than 500 staged protestor at midnight and arrested over 5000 including Buddhist monks.
Photo: Secret source for Narinjara News

Uploaded by Burma Friend on 4 Oct 07, 8.14PM PDT.

This great shot by Burma Friend, a rising star & member on www.flickr.com

Monks Are Silenced, and for Now, Internet Is too in Myanmar

Monks Are Silenced, and for Now, Internet Is too in Myanmar, originally uploaded by Luo Shaoyang.

Monks Are Silenced, and for Now, Internet Is too in Myanmar

Oct.3, it was about as simple and uncomplicated as shooting demonstrators in the streets. Embarrassed by smuggled video and photographs that showed their people rising up against them, the generals who run Myanmar simply switched off the Internet.

(Taken on May in Mt. Wutai - the well-know Buddhism mountain in China)

Uploaded by Luo Shaoyang on 4 Oct 07, 12.52AM PDT.
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Luo Shaoyang is a great artist & member on www.flickr.com

monks

monks, originally uploaded by Farl.

monks

Monks are revered in Cambodia, as in any other Buddhist countries. The robes automatically confer a certain level of spirituality to the wearer. Monks of late are becoming politicized as well, and activism, hopefully can bring about the right change.

the Angkor Wat, Siem Reap, Kampuchea

Uploaded by Farl on 30 Sep 07, 1.23AM PDT.

This great shot by Farl, a great artist & member on www.flickr.com

free burma in fiery red

free burma in fiery red, originally uploaded by Kris Kros.

free burma in fiery red

Free blank "free burma" template in RED.

You may use this as your template. Thank you.

Get it HERE.

You may post your version on this thread.

Thank you.

Uploaded by Kris Kros on 30 Sep 07, 8.11AM PDT.

Buddhist Monks - Burma

Buddhist Monks - Burma, originally uploaded by Kathleen Andersen.

Buddhist Monks - Burma

One of the Flickr 500 for September 21, 2007.

I never make political comments on Flickr but I'll make an exception today. This photo is in support of the Buddhist monks' protest marches in Rangoon (Yangon) and other parts of Burma this week.

Sept 26th update. Sadly we're now getting news of monks' deaths. Let's hope this situation doesn't get totally out of control with even more deaths.

This photo was taken a few months ago at a Buddhist monastery in Rangoon and has nothing to do with this week's protests. However, the monks are now locked in this monastery, and guarded, along with all the other monks in the city.

This photo was linked to various Yahoo news articles hence the 7,000+ views.

Uploaded by Kathleen Andersen on 21 Sep 07, 2.41PM PDT.
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the shout

the shout, originally uploaded by Kris Kros.

the shout

The Shout of all Freedom Loving People Around the World!
FREE BURMA!!!

Time's An Eye in the Sky on Burma

On Friday Burma began to go dark. After days of the largest street protests since 1988, the ruling military junta cracked down, confronting and firing on civilians, reportedly sealing thousands of monks inside their monasteries. Lines of communication into the country were apparently being cut, with Internet cafes closed and web sites shut down, leaving Burmese exile groups and reporters starving for information.

But while the junta can control the street, the monasteries and even the web, they can't control the sky. On Friday the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), working with Burmese groups, released a new analysis of high-resolution satellite images that pinpointed evidence of human rights violations in the eastern Burma. For the first time in Burma, scientists were able to use orbital satellites to confirm on-the-ground reports of burned villages and forced relocations of civilians by the military. The technique has already been used to document human rights abuses in Zimbabwe and Darfur, but in Burma, a closed country that often seems like a modern-day version of Orwell's 1984, it's almost like turning Big Brother against itself. "We are sending a message to the military junta that we are watching from the sky," said Aung Din, policy director for the U.S. Campaign for Burma.

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Uploaded by Kris Kros on 29 Sep 07, 11.29AM PDT.

Serving the people？为人民服务？

Serving the people？为人民服务？, originally uploaded by Luo Shaoyang.

Serving the people？为人民服务？

October 1, will be China's 58th National Day! The background of the photo is Dictator Mao Zedong's handwriting five Chinese characters "serving the people"; foreground is the prospect of two soldiers armed with conventional weapons walked into the Xinhua Gate —— the front gate of the Chinese Communist Party’s Headquarter in Beijing.

Mao Zedong's death 30 years, China has also undergone tremendous changes within the last 30 years, but Chinese people are still living under the shadow of the dictator, and China is still a highly centralized authoritarian state. 1.3 billion Chinese citizens still live in the darkness of the "Social Democracy "——a democracy without political rights. However, it has been a long time since Chinese people raised a question: Is the party serving the people, or are the people serving the party?


再过几天就国庆节了，我想到了一件饶有趣的往事：我漫步在红砖绿瓦的西长安街上，路过雕龙绘凤的中南海新华门时，偶然看到政府衙门的卫兵在换岗，我即刻拿出了相机，当卫兵所持的那两把刺刀把“民”挟持在中间时，我往前走了四五米，冲进了门口的“黄线”，并按下了快门。不料一个探子随之走了过来严厉质问我： “你是干什么的？”我只好随机应变，用英语反问了他几句，他摸不着头绪，以为我是外国游客，便指着我身后的黄线意示我离开。

上图照片中的背景是雕刻在新华门前牌坊上毛泽东当年手写的“为人民服务”，前景是两位手持常规武器的军人走入新华门。毛泽东已去世三十年，中国在这三十年里也发生了巨大的变化，但中国人仍然生活在毛的阴影之下，而且中国仍旧是一个高度集权的专制国家。十三亿中国公民至今仍然生活在阴暗之处的“刀光剑影”之中，没有政治上的民主权利，而共产党也没有任何在除去他们量身定做的法律保障之下的群体或机构的监督，这就使一个问题浮出了水面：到底是共产党在为人民服务呢？ 还是人民在为共产党服务呢？

1945年黄炎培访问延安，在窑洞里与毛泽东谈话说：“我生六十多年，耳闻的不说，所亲眼看到的，真所谓其兴也浡焉’，‘其亡也忽焉’，一人，一家，一团体，一地方，乃至一国，不少不少单位都没有能跳出这周期率的支配力。中共诸君从过去到现在，我略略了解的了。就是希望找出一条新路，来跳出这周期率的支配。” 毛泽东听后几乎从座椅上跳了起来，大声嚷道：“我们已经找到新路，我们能跳出这周期率。这条新路，就是民主。只有让人民来监督政府，政府才不敢松懈。只有人人起来负责，才不会人亡政息。”

可是六十多年过去了，共产党建国到今天又已过了五十八年，老毛及中共所说的“民主”在哪里呢？连个影子都看不见。别说“让人民来监督政府，”就是共产党的干部们少拿人民的纳税钱养几个二奶，少出几个贪污犯；高级官员的王八子孙们不用特权谋取私利，不把国家当自己家，中国的老百姓就谢谢共产党了！


This great shot by Luo Shaoyang, a rising star & member on www.flickr.com

TERRORIST TACTICS, CENSORSHIP ON AN ANTI-CENSOR GROUP!!! GAIL ORENSTEIN BANNED-SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO BAN PEOPLE FROM AN ANTI-CENSORSHIP GROUP? FREE-SPEECH DOES NOT LIVE ON FLICKR!! IF YOU COME TO MY SITE YOU ARE A PORN MONGER-BEWARE YOU ARE BEING TRACKED

TERRORIST TACTICS, CENSORSHIP ON AN ANTI-CENSOR GROUP!!! GAIL ORENSTEIN BANNED-SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO BAN PEOPLE FROM AN ANTI-CENSORSHIP GROUP? FREE-SPEECH DOES NOT LIVE ON FLICKR!! IF YOU COME TO MY SITE YOU ARE A PORN MONGER-BEWARE YOU ARE BEING TRACKED, originally uploaded by NICE JEWISH GIRL.

TERRORIST TACTICS, CENSORSHIP ON AN ANTI-CENSOR GROUP!!! GAIL ORENSTEIN BANNED-SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO BAN PEOPLE FROM AN ANTI-CENSORSHIP GROUP? FREE-SPEECH DOES NOT LIVE ON FLICKR!! IF YOU COME TO MY SITE YOU ARE A PORN MONGER-BEWARE YOU ARE BEING TRACKED

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Yahoo! Up on 'Semel Is Out' Rumors

Yahoo! Terry Semel Is Out??

Yahoo! (YHOO-NASDAQ) is trading up about 2% in early trading on market rumors that Terry Semel is either out or on his way out. Is this true? Well, he didn't give this impression just last week and the company would have probably kept him from speaking too much if it was going to force Semel out. We have been pretty vocal about Terry Semel needing to leave. There was actually a point where he was the right guy at the right time, but that was a temporary issue and his value to the company was in the past. Semel came in at a time when the company needed someone with tenure and real world experience.

Can the above be true??

My opinion is that whatever the action of Yahoo! Board of directors took, the current Board member lack the solid credential to take the top job.

It is better for yahoo to find a season boomer Senior executives to run the Business.

In my opinion, there are too many in fighting in Yahoo. As many are eying the $1XXmillions a year job.

Updates On Censorship Issue On flickr

Flickr = Censorship

Flickr = Censorship, originally uploaded by Thomas Hawk.

The following is by Thomas Hawk:

Flickr = Censorship

[I'm CEO of Zooomr]

Well it is with great disappointment that I found myself yet again a victim of censorship on Flickr. Earlier today while engaging in a debate about Flickr's recent censorship in Germany I had over a dozen of my comments permanently deleted out of a debate by Flickr staff.

You can see the references to my involvement in the debate here and here among other places.

It's ironic that of all places that Flickr would choose to censor me would be in a thread protesting their censorship. And without any warning even or explanation.

This is not the first time I've been censored by Flickr.

The points that I was making in my debate about censorship on Flickr had a lot to do with what I see as problems at Yahoo. The fact that their CEO is the highest paid CEO in the United States, the fact that Yahoo 2 days ago rejected an important shareholder proposal denouncing censorship. And yes this most recent issue of censorship where people in Germany can only access Flickr in "safe mode."

Now some might say that it's not right for me as a competitor to Yahoo to be critical of their practices. But let me point you to the screen shot above. It comes from Flickr employee Dunstan Orchard's public zipline on Zooomr. Dunstan and other Flickr employees have been on Zooomr disparaging our site for the past week. So to me it seems a tad hypocritical that when I legitimately object to censorship on Flickr that I would have my words censored, while Flickr staff seems to feel that it's perfectly appropriate to disparage Zooomr over at Zooomr.

It's not right. And what Flickr doesn't understand is that by censoring your critic you only make him stronger. I'm sure it's probably only a matter of time before I get kicked off of Flickr entirely. All my photographs destroyed and deleted as well. Over 40,000 comments from many good friends.

This is the difference though between me and Flickr. When Dunstan and other Flickr employees disparaged Zooomr I let their words stand. Rather than censor them, I took the high road and did not. Meanwhile Flickr continues to build a name for itself: Flickr = censorship. Silencing me will not change this and it's a sad state of affairs to see happen to the Flickr that I once loved so much and that even now professes to "love me" on the little icon above my page.

Censorship is borne out of fear and weakness. This is something always to remember.

Uploaded by Thomas Hawk on 14 Jun 07, 3.24AM PDT.
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The following is my comments:


I have been a supporter of flickr like TH all along. Although I have a Zooomr account, but I am not too active.

To me, These events are a history repeated by itself of flickr-Yahoo.

Yahoo - flickr = Yahoo!

TH is a user of flickr. However, flickr have the Supreme God & goddess. Whom decide who should be censored; block or deleted...etc.

I have experience that since Sept 29, 2005 till today.

To me flickr is a great photo management community, but over time the Power - politics seem to be happening in both internal & external which are the "customers".

If the management on the top is assuming the imperialism management or authoritarian style then e-gangsterism or e-hooliganism would born naturally.

TH is good heart by sounding out for flickr to improve. It means well & good. However, that is not really appreciated as my earlier experiences.

Perhaps it is the same as what I have been served & f-team God think that it is a threat to their existence.

Especially, TH have commented at his own flickr. Which they have the power to do what they want. Anytime a violating the TOS can just created. & then they can exercise their power.

flickr junior staffs messing at Zooomr site are totally un-professional in the web2.0 era.

In my opinion, Yahoo CEO Terry Semel should need to come forward to the front to assume the leadership to iron out those censorship issue including Germany, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Korea & also those blockage, suspensions, deletions, harassments; oppressions; bully to the Yahoo customers..etc. before it is too late.

NICHT MIT UNS!

NICHT MIT UNS!, originally uploaded by HamburgerJung.

NICHT MIT UNS!

flickr sperrt uns aus! Und auch dich!
Seit gestern werden für deutsche Nutzer keine Bilder mehr angezeigt, die als 'moderate' oder 'restricted' markiert sind! Es gibt keine Möglichkeit das umzustellen - das ist eine grobe Unverschämtheit und Frechheit von flickr!

Lade dieses Bild runter und poste es in deinem Account! Lass uns das Bild überall auf flickr verteilen und es in 'Interestingness' heben!! So geht es nicht!

Original Version: farm2.static.flickr.com/1299/543864623_7aadef1e69_o.jpg

Weitere Infos:
- www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/91085
- www.flickr.com/groups/404938@N23/discuss/72157600347681500/
- www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/42597/
- www.flickr.com/groups/keine_zensur/
- www.flickr.com/groups/againstcensorship

If your Yahoo! ID is based in Singapore, Germany, Hong Kong or Korea you will only be able to view safe content based on your local Terms of Service so won’t be able to turn SafeSearch off. In other words, german users can not access photos on flickr that are not flagged "safe" ... only flowers and landscapes for germans ...Copy and upload this picture to your account - show flickr who we are!

Uploaded by HamburgerJung on 13 Jun 07, 10.09AM PDT.